TIEDEMANN, John Arthur Vale
| Service Number: | 32073 |
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| Enlisted: | 8 October 1916, Enlisted at Royal Agricultural Society Showgrounds, Moore Park, Sydney. |
| Last Rank: | Gunner |
| Last Unit: | 7th Field Artillery Brigade |
| Born: | Paterson, New South Wales, Australia, 1 January 1889 |
| Home Town: | Not yet discovered |
| Schooling: | Not yet discovered |
| Occupation: | Tram Conductor |
| Died: | Killed in action, France, 30 July 1918, aged 29 years |
| Cemetery: |
No known grave - "Known Unto God" Remembered at Villers Bretonneux Memorial in France. |
| Memorials: | Australian War Memorial Roll of Honour, Haymarket NSW Government Railway and Tramway Honour Board |
World War 1 Service
| 8 Oct 1916: | Enlisted AIF WW1, Gunner, 32073, 7th Field Artillery Brigade, Enlisted at Royal Agricultural Society Showgrounds, Moore Park, Sydney. | |
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| 10 Feb 1917: | Involvement Gunner, 32073, 7th Field Artillery Brigade, --- :embarkation_roll: roll_number: '4' embarkation_place: Sydney embarkation_ship: RMS Osterley embarkation_ship_number: '' public_note: '' | |
| 10 Feb 1917: | Embarked Gunner, 32073, 7th Field Artillery Brigade, RMS Osterley, Sydney |
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Add my storyBiography contributed by John Oakes
John Arthur Vale TIEDEMAN, (Service Number 32073) was born on 1st January 1889 at Paterson. He began his career with the NSW Government Railways and Tramways as a casual tram conductor in Newcastle on 2nd July 1910. He transferred to Sydney on 16th March 1911. Three months later he became a permanent employee. He was fined 10/- on 19th April 1916 for ‘Failing to protect tram when running on wrong road.’ His appeal to the Appeals Board was dismissed.
Tiedemann was granted leave to join the Expeditionary Forces on 24th September 1916. His railway record has a note that he remained loyal during the 1917 Strike. He could hardly have gone on strike because by that date he had long left Australia, having enlisted at the Show Ground Camp in Sydney on 8th October 1916 and embarked RMS ‘Osterley’ at Sydney on 10th February 1917! He had given his father, Albert Tiedemann living at Rosebank via Hinton NSW as his next of kin.
‘Osterley’ reached Plymouth (England) on 11th April and Tiedemann marched in to the Reserve Brigade of the Australian Artillery at Larkhill. From there he went to France in July where he was attached to the 5th Division Trench Mortar Brigade at Rouelles and then the 7th Field Artillery Brigade.
In October 1917 he was admitted to hospital with Influenza and this resulted in a series of admissions to the 5th Division Rest Station, the 3rd Canadian Casualty Clearing Station, No. 31 Ambulance Train, No. 57 General Hospital, the Hospital Ship ‘Jan Breydel’ to England and the Clandon Park Hospital at Guildford. It was January 1918 before he could be discharged to an auxiliary hospital and then a convalescent depot. It was March before he proceeded from the Overseas Training Brigade at Longbridge Deverill to France and the 14th Light Trench Mortar Battery.
In April he was again hopsitalised, this time with mumps.. He was not fit for service until June 1918.
He was killed in action on 30th July 1918.
Cpt H Ambler (3454) reported:
‘At Morlancourt towards Sailly-le-Sec at 2 a.m. just after the company had been relieved and were moving back a shell came over and killed Tiedemann and B. Dellavale instantly. They were buried together at P/C and a cross erected.’
After the war the grave site could not be located, and Tiedemann has no known grave, He is remembered at the Villers Bretonneux Memorial, France.
- based on the Australian War Memorial Honour Roll and notes for the Great Sydney Central Station Honour Board.