MURRAY, Herbert
| Service Numbers: | 3365, 61997 |
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| Enlisted: | 5 April 1917, Enlisted Showgrounds New South Wales from Newcastle Allocated to 28th Reinforcement’s 7th Light Horse Squadron at Seymour Camp Victoria 31July 1917 |
| Last Rank: | Trooper |
| Last Unit: | 7th Light Horse Regiment |
| Born: | Plattsburg. New South Wales, Australia, date not yet discovered |
| Home Town: | Plattsburg, Newcastle, New South Wales |
| Schooling: | Plattsburg Public School, New South Wales, Australia |
| Occupation: | Labourer |
| Memorials: | Hamilton War Memorial, Wallsend Soldier's Memorial |
World War 1 Service
| 5 Apr 1917: | Enlisted AIF WW1, Private, 3365, 7th Light Horse Regiment | |
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| 5 Apr 1917: | Enlisted AIF WW1, Trooper, 3365, 7th Light Horse Regiment, Enlisted Showgrounds New South Wales from Newcastle Allocated to 28th Reinforcement’s 7th Light Horse Squadron at Seymour Camp Victoria 31July 1917 | |
| 5 Apr 1917: | Enlisted AIF WW1, Private, 61997, 1st to 17th (VIC) Reinforcements, Previously served as 3365 Trooper Herbert Murray. Allocated to 13th General Service Reinforcement’s Victoria at Broadmeadows Camp Issued new service number 61997 | |
| 11 Jun 1917: | Embarked Private, 3365, 7th Light Horse Regiment, HMAT Port Lincoln, Sydney | |
| 11 Jun 1917: | Involvement Private, 3365, 7th Light Horse Regiment, --- :embarkation_roll: roll_number: '2' embarkation_place: Sydney embarkation_ship: HMAT Port Lincoln embarkation_ship_number: A17 public_note: '' | |
| 19 Jun 1917: | Transferred AIF WW1, Trooper, Miscellaneous Hospitals - WW1, Disembarked Melbourne transferred to Isolation Camp Langwarrin Victoria for treatment | |
| 18 Jul 1917: | Transferred AIF WW1, Trooper, Miscellaneous Hospitals - WW1, Attorney General 3MD audit for 2MD dated 30 May 1918: Ascot Vale to Seymour 18 July 1917 Seymour to Langwarrin 23 Aug 1917 Langwarrin to Seymour 17 Dec 1917 Seymour to Langwarrin 10 Jan 1918 Langwarrin to Maribyrnong 8Mar18 Maribyrnong to Broadmeadows 06 May 1918 | |
| 16 May 1918: | Transferred AIF WW1, Trooper, 7th Light Horse Regiment, Declared an illegal absentee by AIF HQ from 16 May 1918 to 21 July 1920 | |
| 5 Oct 1918: | Involvement Private, 61997, 1st to 17th (VIC) Reinforcements, --- :embarkation_roll: roll_number: '20' embarkation_place: Melbourne embarkation_ship: SS Zealandic embarkation_ship_number: '' public_note: '' | |
| 5 Oct 1918: | Embarked Private, 61997, 1st to 17th (VIC) Reinforcements, SS Zealandic, Melbourne | |
| 5 Dec 1918: | Transferred AIF WW1, Private, 23rd Infantry Battalion, Allocated to reinforce 23rd Battalion from 5th Training Battalion UK | |
| 18 Dec 1918: | Transferred AIF WW1, Private, Army Medical Corps (AIF), Transferred to AMC Details UK for training Fovant Camp England | |
| 23 Dec 1918: | Transferred AIF WW1, Private, Miscellaneous Hospitals - WW1, Posted to 1st Australian Dermatology Hospital Bulford UK for duty | |
| 26 Aug 1919: | Transferred AIF WW1, Private, 7th Field Ambulance, Transferred to 7th Field Ambulance For Duty England | |
| 23 Sep 1919: | Embarked AIF WW1, Private, 61997, 7th Field Ambulance, RTA Nursing Staff on HT Ascanius for duty | |
| 25 Nov 1919: | Discharged AIF WW1, Private, 61997, 7th Field Ambulance, Discharged 2MD Sydney termination Period of Enlistment | |
| 22 Jul 1920: | Discharged AIF WW1, Trooper, 3365, 7th Light Horse Regiment, Discharged from 2MD in consequence of desertion. |
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Add my storyBiography contributed by Pam Hamilton
The Story of the Two Herbert Murray's, being one in the same!
3365 Trooper Herbert Murray (7th Light Horse Regiment) and
61997 Private Herbert Murray (13th GSR late 7th Field Ambulance)
A classic example of a soldier being lost in the system.
The Office of Base Records were unable to link 3365 Herbert Murray 2 MD as the same man. When at Broadmeadows Camp Herbert was reissued a new Serial Number 61997 from the 3 MD.
To confound the issue Herbert's parents sent letters to reflect he had not written to them noe had they received any allotment from him since Herbert enlisted.
To put more fuel on the fire Herbert had been sent to no more than 5 different Camps in Victoria over an 11 month period.
Finally when 61997 Private Herbert Murray left Australia with the 13th GSR, the Attorney General Department conducted an audit concluding 3365 Trooper Murray must be still in Australia.
In 1923 both Herbert Murray's files were combined and as a result the Record showed
3365 Trooper Herbert Murray was discharged for desertion from the AIF from 16 May 1918 ; however
61997 Private Herbert Murray 7th Field Ambulance (late 13th GSR) served honourably in England from October 1918 to 1919.
Issued the British War Medal.
Biography contributed by Pam Hamilton
Served as 3365 Trooper Herbert Murray 7 th Light Horse Regiment
Detail of period of Service April 1917 to 16 May 1918 please refer above.